It should also be noted that some manufacturers specify the distance between two adjacent bolts, and some specify it as the distance between two opposite bolts (or 2nd bolt along on a 5 bolt hub).
This is because the PCD standard is non-standardised
Some manufacturers include the number of bolts in the measurement, and some bundle the offset (distance between the centre line of the wheel and the hub facing on the wheel) as part of the PCD too.
So whilst one manufacturer will quote a PCD of 4100ET30, others will quote an entirely different number and consider the offset and bolt pattern as totally seperate information.
I am trying to match alloy wheels to cars for a web site client at the moment, and it's a nightmare getting the data. I would like to let people specify their car and show them what wheels fit, and also list the cars that each wheel fits on the product pages - but it's going to take me months just to get all the data in and standardise it, let alone calculate which cars have wheel arches or suspension struts which may obstruct the wheel when it reaches it's full turning circle. *sigh*
Nightmare. Absolute nightmare.
*scratches head* no hornies here. Or sandwiching for that matter...
As for this whole German versus American car debate I think it's a bit immature and silly that strong feelings are presiding over something so silly.
People buy the cars that appeal to them. Neither German or American cars appeal to me although given a choice i'd probably go American, but cars are only for getting from A to B in.
Race cars, now that's another matter: and that's not something American companies have ever done terribly well on the international stage.
Well i'm going to be in the States in the next couple of years at some point, I could always swing by and show you some moves.
I'm more of a giver than a taker, so I hope you like screaming.
True, although I do quite like Shotglass. What he says is usually backed with mischievous spirit rather than a testosterone driven desire to get one up on someone.
Me and Paws we just win because the entire forum wants to sleep with one or the other of us.
Nearly had a good tease going with the hitting on her in another thread too which would have given us tonnes of ammo, but she thought I was serious which blew the ruse. Ho hum.
Mind you with the way things are going in my love life lately I may have to resort to men, so if she changes her mind i'll be on the next flight...
Actually Shotglass I have to side with random internet forum persons dad on this one. There is a strong underlying precedent in German engineering to over-engineer solutions.
You brought up the Godwin argument so i'll start there, it cost you ze vor.
Panzerkampfwagon VI's, awesome machines in both the Ausf E unt B variants. But have you looked at the suspension arrangement? It's sooooo complex, so complex infact that the daddyland only managed to produce a few hundred of them, whilst the Ruskies set about zerging your ass with 100000 T34's.
This is just one example of an endless list of engineering solutions which by all accounts where far more complicated than they needed to be. Don't get me wrong, in the example given there really was no better machine in ze vor. Aside from the Ioseph Stalin II's and III's, and in a face to face i'd favour a British Comet - but apart from those tanks the Jaeger unt Koenigs Jaegers were awesome machines with really amazing suspension.
It's just a shame that they really didnt need that suspension, and the ability to field repair them and produce them quicker would have greatly boosted the Daddylands vor effort, but as was is just one of many shortcomings of the reich vor machinnen.
And ze next time you bring up Godvins law you shall instantly gain 2 troll points.
plzkthxbai
The way car manufacturers look at it is "why standardise?". Especially when you can charge 7x more for spare parts.
It's not just the wheel hub you see, it's the brake disc, the caliper & pads and suspension arms and shock absorbers... The whole arrangement is bespoke for each car, with frequent poorly documented changes between years making buying spares much harder, and i'm sure this is all deliberate so that you have to go to main dealers and peoeple who sells parts at reasonable prices like me have a nightmare databasing product ... I've been the last week writing a script to process brake pad fitments, it's been running 16 hours and is 50% complete. It's the first pass of 3.
I hate car manufacturers.
It's not just the wheel hub you see, it's the brake disc, the caliper & pads and suspension arms and shock absorbers... The whole arrangement is bespoke for each car, with frequent poorly documented changes between years making buying spares much harder, and i'm sure this is all deliberate so that you have to go to main dealers and peoeple who sells parts at reasonable prices like me have a nightmare databasing product ... I've been the last week writing a script to process brake pad fitments, it's been running 16 hours and is 50% complete. It's the first pass of 3.
I hate car manufacturers.
Paypal have been having major system problems since the 29th October, they had a complete outage and subsequently odd things have been happening in our account setups, some configuration settings on two of my companies biggest accounts dissappeared which resulted in us not getting confirmation that orders had been paid for.
From an end user perspective i'd avoid paypal for a week or so until everythings been back to normal for a while. We spotted the issues pretty quickly because we've a lot of money moving about but some smaller vendors who experience the same issues might not notice so quickly if they dont routinely check paypal.
Especially as Paypal havnt published anything relating to the configuration issue yet (which related to IPN details vanishing for those interested), only that there was an outage on the 29th.
From an end user perspective i'd avoid paypal for a week or so until everythings been back to normal for a while. We spotted the issues pretty quickly because we've a lot of money moving about but some smaller vendors who experience the same issues might not notice so quickly if they dont routinely check paypal.
Especially as Paypal havnt published anything relating to the configuration issue yet (which related to IPN details vanishing for those interested), only that there was an outage on the 29th.
I believe the correct marketting time is that their brands had a "wide coverage".
It's pretty hard to discuss it tbh Kev, i've googled and found nothing - I dont have a telly, and none of the papers seem to be leading with it on their web sites. There seems no way to discuss it from an informed stand point, or it's wishful thinking. 
I did find articles relating to us bailing out Greece, and us bailing out RBS again and some other bank because apparently they need £40bn plus between them because we didn't give them enough last time, allegedly.
These are not good times to have money sitting in a bank account, that's all I know, but it doesn't bother me because I don't have any.
I did find articles relating to us bailing out Greece, and us bailing out RBS again and some other bank because apparently they need £40bn plus between them because we didn't give them enough last time, allegedly.
These are not good times to have money sitting in a bank account, that's all I know, but it doesn't bother me because I don't have any.
I dont disagree with your statement, I just have a different outlook. I know i've made mistakes, plenty of them. Some of them even in and around this community, I just dont consider them regrets.
For me a regret is something you wish you could change, and I think it's far more important to have learned whatever lesson and to have become a better person than to mull over events that have already happened.
There are things I would do differently, but I dont wish I could change them because out of those mistakes I became me.
It's not that me and your non-regretful friend havnt made mistakes. It's simple a case that we have a different, for less emo, more forward thinking personal philosophy and maybe regard ourselves with a little more self worth.
Don't get me wrong I wasnt always this way. I used to think like you did, I used to regret some of the worst mistakes of my life and some things I couldn't change or had no control over even at the time but that happened and I didnt like them and I wanted to somehow magically fix them. I couldn't, and I couldn't get past those things until emotionally until I accepted they had happened, and once I did I realised that the experiences had taught me lessons and grown me as a person and gradually, over time, I found myself quite liking the person I became.
My advise to you is to plan your league to require a minimal of overhead. Trying to do a "professional" job with the workload involved in "scrutineering" the setups would be difficult, so i'd suggest going the other way and finding a friendly bunch who dont take it too seriously and therefor have less inclination to cheat. The alternative is to develop software tools to do most of the graft for you.
I've had a quite different concept which shares a couple of similarities with your idea for some time, i've started coding control software for it a few times but never had the enthusiasm to finish because I know that if I did finish the software i'd have to run the league - and that actually doesnt appeal to me anymore because i've done it before and I know how much stress it is! I swore if I did another league i'd get all the software done first so it would run itself.
The other thing i'd highlight is that if there is prizes for finishing first on performance then the guys who do that early will get the better cars and run away with it. So I would avoid awarding "credits" to a race victor unless you're doing it in a 24/7 pickup server / mass player model.
I've had a quite different concept which shares a couple of similarities with your idea for some time, i've started coding control software for it a few times but never had the enthusiasm to finish because I know that if I did finish the software i'd have to run the league - and that actually doesnt appeal to me anymore because i've done it before and I know how much stress it is! I swore if I did another league i'd get all the software done first so it would run itself.
The other thing i'd highlight is that if there is prizes for finishing first on performance then the guys who do that early will get the better cars and run away with it. So I would avoid awarding "credits" to a race victor unless you're doing it in a 24/7 pickup server / mass player model.
Frances nuclear programme is well ahead of ours anyway
And frankly i'm glad it is.
And frankly i'm glad it is.
Am I the only person who doesnt understand this thread?
Even the OP: Somebody thinks that the vatican is buying Britain so that we can build an army and take over the world?
And now... I'm just lost.
Utterly lost.
Even the OP: Somebody thinks that the vatican is buying Britain so that we can build an army and take over the world?
And now... I'm just lost.
Utterly lost.
I think it's more a matter of outlook. I certainly live much more in the moment than most people I know. I take my lessons with me but I leave the past behind.
I think if you love the person you are there's no need to regret anything, and if you don't love the person you are then you really ought to find a way to do so - because if you can't love yourself then how can you expect anyone else too?
I dont believe in regrets. Although i've done a lot of things wrong, and there are things I would definately do differently in the same situation, the fact is I love the person I have become and I wouldn't change me for the world - and that only happened because of the decisions I made and the stuff that happened to me
.Besides, going back a year i'd be with Hayley again... and that was one of the worst decisions I ever made!
That is one of the most mature things a 17 year old can say.
We do keep growing and learning throughout our lives: When I think back to myself just a few years ago I think "omg what a stupid bitch I was".
And i'm absolutely certain that in a few years time I will look back on the me I am now and think the same.
I'm really looking forward to getting older and descovering more about life. I think i'm pretty ballanced and well rounded these days - but if i've learned anything at all from my life so far, it's that I keep evolving as a person.
*ahem*
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"Hi boss. BTW I ruined your £750,000 race car and got us an official warning from the stewards, but the good news is I'M ALIVE!"
Neh i'm just expressing my disdain for the one segment of television broadcasting set aside for "my niche". It follows a pretty damning report about the BBC's broadcasting of homophobia and negative portrayal of homosexuality across it's programming so the BBC have responded with Lip Service... Which is a pretty apt description of how they're plugging the gap in their programming by producing a lesbian show about bisexuals with lots of girl on girl sex scenes in it.
*sigh*
I just watched episode 3, the plot is getting more interesting with Frankie at least.
It really doesnt. The only lesbian character who isn't bisexual is the little ditzy blonde - every other female character claims to be bisexual. A necessary caveat to appeal to male viewers. *sigh*
The plots are week and the jokes are childish. It really is rubbish telly.
I quite like the ditzy blonde though, so i'm giving it a chance to either A) warm itself to me, or B) in any way remotely relate to lesbian life.
I've still not reached a final verdict yet (have seen the first 2 only so far).
Oh right, so I should be offended and call you the N word back? *makes a note*
I think I just got burned...! Maybe I will console myself with my guitar:
♫ Lay your paws on me,
I'm a fighter, I'm a poet, I'm a preacher
I've been to school and baby, I've been the teacher
If you show me how to get up off the ground
I can show you how to fly and never ever come back down
Lay your paws on me, lay your paws on me, lay your paws on me...♫
♫ Lay your paws on me,
I'm a fighter, I'm a poet, I'm a preacher
I've been to school and baby, I've been the teacher
If you show me how to get up off the ground
I can show you how to fly and never ever come back down
Lay your paws on me, lay your paws on me, lay your paws on me...♫
****it, i'll invite your ex to the next movie night then
Me or Paws? Because if it's me you're after you shouldn't have stood me up last night! Or is Paws the reason why, huh? *growls*
Grease in 3 weeks, are you down?
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